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August 17, 2009

Vick experiment could work

Posted: 07:00 AM ET

Sports Anchor Rafer Weigel

We are witnessing the most dramatic and polarizing comeback in the history of sports. Michael Vick’s return to the NFL shows all the makings of a Phoenix-like rise from the ashes that started when he did something Friday and again on "60 Minutes" Sunday night that most had never heard him do: He spoke.

Michael Vick says he understands that 'Playing in the NFL is a privilege not a right'.
Michael Vick says he understands that 'Playing in the NFL is a privilege not a right'.

While it’s hard for us sports fans to imagine prior to his crimes a large majority of people had actually never heard of Michael Vick. My wife hadn’t. Neither had some of my friends. Not everyone follows the NFL. To them he was a faceless, ruthless dog killer, a monster who should not be allowed anywhere near the legions of “heroes” in the professional ranks. And he may still be. We don’t know yet.

But Vick showing what seems like genuine remorse and contrition has caught some off guard—even those who had followed his career. And now some are changing their stand and are now leaning towards the idea that Vick may have learned his lesson.

Me, I’m more of a cynic. I know Vick lost a record $130 million contract when he was arrested. If I lost that much money, you can bet I’d be remorseful too. But it was what Vick said that got me thinking that this experiment could actually work:

“If I can help more dogs than I hurt, then I’m contributing.”

Having covered crime, I can tell you dog fighting is more rampant around this country than many might realize. It’s more popular in the inner cities. Even Vick himself referred to it in his “60 Minutes” interview as a cultural crime. Vick has the power to help change that culture in some areas.

He was and still is a hero to millions of kids—many of whom are in the inner city. This is not to say every inner city kid wants to do dog fighting. But hearing Vick speak out against it could keep a kid from making that bad decision. And in the long run, more dogs’ lives could actually be saved and some young people may just be less likely to make such a stupid mistake by learning from his example.

Most of our animal cruelty laws are a joke. Remember Vick spent two years in prison because of racketeering and gambling charges, not because dogs died. Because of that Vick actually could have more of an affect on reducing this horrific crime nationwide than even law enforcement.

Eagles owner Jerry Lurie says he’s an animal lover. His condition for Vick joining the team is that he does speak out against it and work with the Humane Society. Lurie along with Vick’s mentor, Super Bowl-winning coach and devote Christian Tony Dungy, say they will keep Vick accountable to this promise. Their involvement makes me believe that will happen.

Maybe I’m being too naïve. Maybe I’m being too optimistic. I have to be. I have first-hand knowledge of how many dogs suffer and die at the hands of the sport.

And for those of you who say, “Why should Vick be responsible to save the world when he’s served his time?” let me quote something Vick himself said:

"Playing in the NFL is a privilege not a right."

Vick has been given back that once-squandered privilege. With that comes responsibility. If he takes that responsibility and does something good with it he will have my support again which is why I’ll be more concerned with what he does off the field than on it.

How do you feel after hearing Vick speak? Did it change your perception at all? Do think any good can come out of this?

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Dav-v-oochi   August 17th, 2009 8:17 am ET

Michael Vick should stay more focus on keeping his rep at a positive outlook,so us fans can stay fans.Good morning Rafer, and Robin!

Bob Bucklin   August 17th, 2009 9:14 am ET

We all have made mistakes in our lives! Period......Vick's culture growing up was different then most.....He has learned his lesson, paid his dues and now should allowed to live his life and practice his craft as an NFL superstar!

Gianna   August 17th, 2009 9:16 am ET

Bottomline? Actions speak louder than words.

I feel Vick should work. However, he should work for an animal organization FIRST before returning to a multi million dollar privileged career. Prison is mandatory once convicted not voluntary. Vick needs to redeem his character without mandates in place to prove himself. A visit to the humane society doesn't cut it.

For the Philly Eagles and others the same to sign him too fast poorly conditions society. But than again it seems like the abnormal is acceptable these days. How sad. When our younger generations follow poor examples don't say "Where did we go wrong."

Vick decided to engage in cognizant, volitional, calculated, cruel practices which promoted torture to living, innocent, voiceless creatures. He knew the difference between right/wrong, good/bad yet kept it up. This was no mistake. The mistake was getting caught. There is NO justifiable excuse or reason. Again, he has not paid his debt morally.

Animal fanatics? Please, yawn. Are there not football fanatics? Who is righteous enough to deem either right or wrong? However, when a supposedly intelligent human being takes volitional action to repeatedly participate in the torture of living things he/she can and should be heavily judged; nevertheless prove his trustworthiness BEFORE he is given privilege to become part of a highly paid iconic career. His words are just words at the moment. It's really a no brainer!

Gary   August 17th, 2009 9:23 am ET

Get over it, people! The media talks more about Michael Vick for running a dog fighting ring than they talk about the thieves we have in Congress. The media needs to get their priorities straight and air the news that makes a difference. I don't agree with what Micheal Vick did, but is it necessary to run it in the ground. I mean isn't there something more important we could be talking about, like the wars we have along our own boarders Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California. These drug cartels are killing innocent people and we're worried about Michael Vick and what he did in the past, which he's paid his debt to society for.

Let's get with the program people and get your heads out of your a–!!!

mark trahan   August 17th, 2009 9:28 am ET

They get a scum-bag criminal off the streets and as soon as he gets
out they give him 1.6 mil.!!!??? Plus, you ask "how's his arm?" I will
NEVER watch your show again!!!!! Though it's ashame because I'll
miss seeing Bob and Jenifer

Nancy   August 17th, 2009 9:33 am ET

Just one more athlete who doesn't get it. Crying, maybe; because he got caught.

Leigh   August 17th, 2009 9:55 am ET

Despite Vick's seemingly turn around. It's to save his aXX. He enjoyed torturing dogs by the hundreds, if not thousands. A person with such tendencies can't, all of a sudden, turn what he enjoys doing around, suddenly becoming an animal lover. He should have been barred from any sports for a lifetime. Sports entities who have done far less heinous crimes than Vick have been barred for lie, A la Pete Rose.

R.J.   August 17th, 2009 10:14 am ET

I agree with Bob Bucklin just said. .He has learned his lesson, paid his dues and now should allowed to live his life

By the way. Donte Stallworth of the Cleveland Browns who was drunk, struck and KILLED a man. Just got only 24 days in jail for manslaughter. Has our society change that much that we don't respect human lift anymore. Where is the public outcry about his actions?

Deb   August 18th, 2009 7:38 am ET

The sports world needs to re-vamp! These ICONS seem to know they can do whatever they want, when they want, and there are really no Consiquences . They still get the big bucks for being the bad boys.

Dan Beirl   August 18th, 2009 7:48 am ET

Many people get away with crimes, undetected, Vick served his punishment ,now should be allowed to move on....being a Packer fan I think the Vikings missed the boat ....also , Robin, I think you are gorgeous!

Dave Beals   August 18th, 2009 8:48 am ET

I agree with you Rafer when you say you have doubts about Vick's sincere remorse. I never liked him for some reason and thought that he got what he deserved when he went to prison. But I am also a Christian who believes that everyone deserves to be forgiven if they appear to repent. The Bible tells us that we are to forgive others as we want to be forgiven by God. None of us are perfect and have done things that we wish we hadn't but I also realize that Vick has done something more heinous than many of us will ever do in our lifetimes. The degree of sinfulness isn't what's important here but the fact that he did sin and has now apparently repented and has asked for a second chance. As a Christian I can only take him at his word, forgive him, and give him that second chance. If he has truly changed then I say more power to him. Only God knows for sure and He's the only one who should be judging Michael Vick right now.

nardofree in va.   August 18th, 2009 9:34 am ET

SO, IT'S REALLY ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY HE'S GOING TO MAKE? THAT'S WHAT ALL THE HOOPLA IS ABOUT. IT'S NOT THE DOGS. AS I CAN RECALL, PEOPLE WERE UPSET WHEN VICK LEFT VT AND SIGNED WITH THE FALCONS FOR ALL THAT MONEY THAT THEY DIDN'T THINK HE SHOULD BE GETTING. I

Maureen   August 18th, 2009 11:46 am ET

I truly hope Michael Vick is sorry. I believe he deserves a second chance. How many of us in this world wished we had a second chance or that someone would give it to us. I really thought he did not deserve a 2nd chance but who am I anyway to say that his sins are any worse than mine or yours, that is up to GOD. Michael Vick if you are truly sorry for he crimes you commited,( you had to pay a price) emotionally ,physically and mentally (not to mention financially)
you have my BLESSING. Keep Strong, Have Faith
I hope you mean what you say and hope that you educate people that any type of ANIMAL FIGHTING is WRONG. take the knocks and use them to your advantage. Take Care

Phillip J. Philpot   August 18th, 2009 5:16 pm ET

Vick gets reinstated to play and Pete Rose can't participate in baseball at all?? Does anyone else have a problem with this??

Cindy   August 18th, 2009 5:42 pm ET

If Vick thinks he has changed from the GOAT FACED MAGOT that he is, then he needs to SHUT UP and put up his football proceedes toward's animal care. Then and only then will we see a changed human being and not this tittie baby. . What a sorry excuse for a human being, he is only taking up air on this planet. What if we did all of the horrible things to him that he has done, do you think that would get his attention?
By the way for all the people that wants to see his return, what would they say if it had been their children or beloved pets. Would they still feel the same? People always want' to forgive when they are not directly affected by what happens.
He needs to ROT in HELL!!!!!!

Kathryn, Lloyd, Gretchen, and Jon Brinker   August 18th, 2009 6:29 pm ET

Robin, you were beautiful (as always) this Tuesday on "Morning Express" !!! Your wardrobe and accessories–especially your gorgeous hairstyles–complement your appearance so early in the morning !!! Robin, when you wore your hair in an up-style in a large bun, you resembled Princess Grace and Audrey Hepburn . . . and the beauty, dignity, and charisma of their legendary times !!! What a compliment to be included in a class with these two remarkable women !!! Now to Mr. Vick: we pray that he has learned his lesson after his costly, inhumane mistake !!! As Julia Roberts would quote the following from "Pretty Woman": "BIG, HUGE mistake on his part !" As any good Christian would say, he deserves a second chance to clean his slate and start fresh–especially with the pain and humiliation he caused his friends and family !!! With the 2009 football season starting in full swing, our hope is that all those concerned will adhere to the situation which has occurred with Mr. Vick !!! Remember: your actions–whether they be drugs, steriods, drunk driving, hanky-panky, and absolutely no women abuse–as they will end up with you being in a media-frenzy circus !!! The fans (whether they be Philadelphia Eagles or whoever) should be gracious, courteous, and respectful of Mr. Vick's appearance on the field–no matter how much gusto; just think of the family sitting there, making it a special outing for them !!! Now, are you ready for some football . . . just let the games begin; enjoy it all !!! Have a good week, Robin . . . and remember that we love ya, Ohio girl !!! Robin's Follies !!!

Dominic Sanders   August 19th, 2009 8:20 am ET

He has repayed his debt.. Everyone deserves a second chance.. His Fame = better sentence.. It happens all the time..

Larry Lueder   August 19th, 2009 8:44 am ET

Eagles wear blinders about Vick's history

Had people instead of canines been tortured and horribly murdered, would the Philadelphia Eagles have forgiven Michael Vick's sins so quickly?

To assume that Vick remains a talented football quarterback speaks volumes of the horse blinders that the Eagles' management sports. There are thousands of young men out there standing in line for a chance to prove themselves worthy.

Head Coach Andy Reid sees his sons (two of whom have been jailed for drug-related offenses) in Vick, and all is forgiven - as just about any parent would do when it comes to his or her own children.

An accidental comment about sportsmanship that is viewed as racist can get someone fired, but when it comes to torturing animals, it's on with the game.

Larry Lueder
Mantua Township

madeleine   August 19th, 2009 8:55 am ET

I'm all about giving people a second chance, But don't sensationalize him. Let him get a job like the rest of us in this country. Fill out a job application or resme, put his felony conviction on it, and let him sit and wait for the phone call interview. See how the REAL world works. He sits back, whines a little about how he learned his lesson, and they throw $1.6 mil at him. Why don't people who really do WORTHWHILE jobs get paid the big bucks! (like people that work with special needs kids.) There is nothing worthwhile about what he does. Want to prove his rehabilitation, let him work for the animal shelter for $35 K a year and learn to live on it.

Garet Lind   August 19th, 2009 10:57 am ET

Growing up in a Christian family I was raised learning that no matter how serious the sin everyone in life deserves a second chance. So maybe Vicks appologies aren't sincer maybe they are. Words mean nothing only time will tell of he is truly a changed man. And on the subject of Vicks money who cares he's entitled to make as much as he can. His set of talents let him earn huge bundels of cash

floridazach   August 20th, 2009 12:52 pm ET

Robin:
I watch your show daily every morning sometimes for 3 hours or so, and I keep waiting to hear you talk about or something from the news desk where you talk abpout the growing problem of felons being released from jail with no opportunity to succeed no matter the crime ! I’m 28 years of age and got into trouble when I was 18 , 10 years now and the military will not except me and keep telling me to call back maybe next month they say , I wonder what the troops would think about this knowing that someone with circumstances as I have cannot join and defend our country however else would I prove I’m not the teenager I was when this happened and on top of that it is so petty . Robin and team this is a bigger problem than the American people want to admit to …we have been put on the back bunner for so long , no wonder why the recidivism rate is so high because there is no other option. They let Michael Vick’s go after little time behind bars accept him back in America’s top sport , and give him his second chance to prove himself where is ours , its sickening to know I have to beg the military to give me a chance to show myself ” I was a teenager when this happened and your telling me now that I’m 28 years old I can’t serve my country for writing a bad check? Robin and team I have wrote everyone from the President to the Vice- President to my Senator and even my state rep. the only one who has even wrote me back and it was in an email was my state rep. Mike Fasano here in pasco county Florida New Port Richey.
I just want my second chance to actually prove myself I have a little girl as well and I want her to be proud of me , If anyone gets this message will you respond and let me know if there is anyway you can help. Thanks and keep it up Robin Meade love the personality and your team works so well together it makes for a good show of news.

Tony   August 21st, 2009 8:28 am ET

I feel people are being very harsh and unfair to Vick. I respect how people feel about their pets and that's fine, but this has nothing to do with football. Michael Vick should not have to shoulder the worlds inability to control dog abuse in exchange for working at his professional job. The NFL got this wrong in my opinion.

Abel   August 21st, 2009 9:26 am ET

Some don't want to ex-cons who have done their time back into "society." Look at Mahumad Ali, as a Marine I feel draft-dodging is far worse! But we still treat him like a hero, I say let Vick PLAY!

nardofree in va.   August 21st, 2009 3:43 pm ET

Sinners calling others Sinners. Ridiculous! 100% Sinners! All of us, and we judge another man after he goes to jail and returns. Those who thinks this man should rot in hell, be careful how you judge, because he's no greater sinner than any of us. i do believe sin is sin and the penalty for it is the same for all who practice it. killin, stealing , lying,and those of us who hate and don't forgive others. GET IT RIGHT, IF YOU'RE GONNA PLAY, THE GREAT JUDGE!

Custer Morris   August 22nd, 2009 1:30 pm ET

I think being locked up for any period of time for someone who doesn't know what it's like is a real eye opener. As far as the situation goes, a person either agress with animals fighting animals or not. It goes back to the morality of Cock Fighting which has been done in this country since it's inception, and is, of course, illegal. The point is, why do people agree with the concept of men and women going to war and killing each other and not agreeing with animals killing each other when it is their natural propencity to do so? Very confusing, isn't it? Captain Custer Morris, Lake Placid, Texas, near San Antonio.

Ken   August 26th, 2009 9:26 am ET

Vick should be gone for good ... all that Pete Rose did was gamble, hurting no-one but himself and his pocket book and ended up losing his bid for baseball History as one of the best of all time (sans steroids).
Vick, while a talented player should never see a field again, he will end up being someone that our children wish to be like and as a father I will not permit that. My children and I will never watch a professional football game again if these are the kinds of messages that the commission wishes to send.

gwen   August 26th, 2009 10:41 am ET

Americans some get more jail and life stripped away for dog fighting that one do for killing and human. Why should Mike Vick play football I dont know why people think people with money should be a role model for their kids and their fathers are drug dealers, child pred, in jail or something worse. I would not want my child to have a role model other than his biological father. If you cannot make your child father be a positive role model for his child how can you make or demand someone else father to do so. Mike payed for his crime and please allow him to get on with his life. THOSE WITHOUT SINS LET HIM CAST THE FIRST STONE.

Adrian Snell   August 28th, 2009 3:55 pm ET

Michael Vick is my second favorite quarterback, who is now playing with my favorite quarterback,Donovan McNabb. Not only will the Vick experiment work but the both the Philidephia Eagles and the NFL will benefit from Vick's return. Even though he lost two years of his life from something as irrelevant as dog-fighting, Vick I think Vick has left all of that in the pass and is ready to make a play-off run.

April   October 1st, 2009 8:06 am ET

It is very sad that my children can't watch a tv with a dog FIGHTER (not dog killer) but they put homosexuals on tv and think that it is okay for them to watch. I can't watch tv with my kids without some homosexual being on a show. What is this country coming to when you get harassed more for being a dog fighter than you do for killing someone. I also think that the US has many more important things to be discussing at this time.

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